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PPG Meetings
2025
2024
December
Agenda
* Meet and Greet
* Talk with the pharmacist
Minutes
FRIENDS OF LILYVILLE SURGERY
(PATIENT PARTICIPATION GROUP)
Friends of Lilyville (PPG) meeting minutes – 02/12/2024
Friends of Lilyville members: JG, CG, MW, CW, MH, CR, JB, JV, PW, Dr.YS, Dr.CD,EH,PC,BM
Surgery Members: VC, Dr EWP, MP,DW
1. Welcome/Introductions/Apologies
Warm welcome to everyone by PPG Chair Ms Merril Hammer.
2. Questions and Answers with clinical Pharmacist –
DW- Medication reviews are very important part of prescribing. Patient on regular medication gets invited to have a medication review with our clinical pharmacist. It is surgery’s responsibility to prescribe safely and accurately. Patients on more mediations which can alter the effects of other medication requires a Structred medication review (SMR) Also some medication requires to review often then other medication which only needs to be reviewed annually. Some reviews also requires regular blood test and closer monitoring.
3. JG gave information on survey on Access –
Our PCN received 7% response rate thanks to our PCN’s efforts to collect this valuable data. So have stronger voice as a result so hopefully it all works out in our favour.
At the end of the formal part of the meeting, which was kept short, we had festive refreshments and time to socialise – a very enjoyable time was had by all.
Next meeting TBC
Attachment
News letter
PDF, 519.4 KB
October
Agenda
AGENDA – 1st October 2024
1. Welcome, Introductions and Apologies
2. Minutes and matters arising:
· CQC focus on ‘effective’ – to continue this meeting
· South Fulham PCN – report back on PIEG meeting in July, this meeting
3. Is Lilyville an ‘effective’ practice – and what do we mean by this? (Dr Emily Price-Weston to introduce)
4. Report on PCN (PIEG – Patient Information and Engagement Group) meeting
5. Save Our Pharmacies – check with your local pharmacy and sign petition there
In England:
· 1,500 community pharmacies have closed in the last decade
· 7 pharmacies are closing a week, and
· Three-quarters of pharmacies are in the red
6. GP Access update – Where are we and what comes next?
NW London health bosses (the ICB) are now inviting patients and GP staff for their views on access to GP services following the negative reaction to the earlier proposals on Same Day Access hubs. They will be carrying out a survey of patients in the coming weeks (October) and also asking PCNs to hold at least 2 meetings of patients in their area (one online and one face-to-face) in the coming weeks.
As we have had sight of the questions in the survey, we thought it might be useful for us all to look at these in the time we have available.
7. Reminder – Covid and Flu jabs season has started.
Minutes
FRIENDS OF LILYVILLE SURGERY
(PATIENT PARTICIPATION GROUP)
Friends of Lilyville (PPG) meeting minutes – 1/10/2024
Friends of Lilyville members: JG, SH, CG, MW, CW, MH
Surgery Members: VC, Dr EWP, MP
1. Welcome/Introductions/Apologies
A warm welcome to everyone by PPG Chair Ms Merril Hammer.
2. Minutes/Matters Arising
Merril suggested that formally agreeing minutes etc made the meeting too formal
and that we should try to keep things more informal and friendly. This was agreed.
Merril indicated that two issues were to be discussed further in this meeting – the
CQC focus on ‘effective’; and Patient Involvement and Engagement meeting of
the South Fulham Primary Care Network
VC- safety netting about the test results – as we previously discussed that when
results are received by the surgery, they go to the GP team, ideally the GP that
requested them. GP then checks the results and files the normal results, but sends
follow-up text or some sort of communication to the patient if there is anything unusual
or unexpected to discuss in the results. The surgery has changed the policy and can
give the results to patients over the phone and by email or by a printed copy at the
reception. All patients with online access can also view their results via NHS app.
3. CQC Inspection focus on ‘effective’ – Is Lilyville an ‘effective’ practice?
According to the Care Quality Commission, effective care is when people receive
treatment, care and support that: achieve good outcomes, promotes a good quality
of life, and is based on the best available evidence.
EWP – Our surgery is getting better and better at communicating. There is a lot more
awareness in the general population due to social media and news channels. We are
sending text and emails to our patient population with internet access to keep them
posted about their appointments which helps reduce the non-attendance. We are
also in the process of switching our website to be more friendly and communicative.
4. Report on PCN meeting – Patient Information and Engagement Group
(PIEG)
2 of our PPG team members attended the PIEG meeting and gave a detailed and
interesting report back. The PCN was created in 2019. South Fulham PCN has now
extended to 27 different team members who support 7 different surgeries in our area
with 63,000 total number of patients.
5. Save our Pharmacies
Merril reported on the campaign by the National Pharmacy Association to stop local
pharmacies from closing and demand proper funding for them. EWP stressed how
important local pharmacies are and how they will contact GP practices when they
notice particular problems, given that pharmacies are a key link between patients
and practices.
6. GP Access Update – Where we are and what comes next
We discussed the NW London health bosses (the ICB’s) plans to survey patients for
their views on GP access and to hold meetings for patients. Some concerns were
expressed about the ‘negative’ nature of the survey questions. Patients are
encouraged to attend any meetings (now delayed until November) to put forward
their views, constructively, on how access to their own GP practice might be
improved if this is necessary.
7. Date of Next Meeting The next meeting of Friends of Lilyville will be on
Monday 2nd December – 5.30-7.00 pm. We hope to have a ‘relaxing’ end-of-year and festive season meeting. EVERYONE WELCOME!!
Attachment
PDF, 602.0 KB
September
June
Agenda
Welcome
Minutes
FRIENDS OF LILYVILLE SURGERY
(PATIENT PARTICIPATION GROUP)
Friends of Lilyville (PPG) meeting minutes – 18/06/2024
Friends of Lilyville members: BM,CG, MH,JG,CR,CG,JB,MW,
Surgery Members: VC (Practice Manager, Lilyville ),RL ( Associate Director, South Fulham Primary Care Network), MP (Operations Manager, Lilyville)
- Introductions/Apologies
· Warm welcome to everyone by PPG Chair Ms Merril Hammer. Apologies were received from Dr Weston-Price. RL is joining us today who is an Associate Director for south Fulham primary care network.
- Minutes/Matters Arising
· On Patches, the issues raised about the need for supported training and developing understanding for all patients about Patches will be taken up at a later date by Merril with the practice and with the PCN to ensure that ongoing work is undertaken to ensure patients understand and can easily navigate the system as appropriate. This may need to be extended to other technical innovations from the NHS so people can cope with changes.
· Merril will discuss with practice what is the best way people can engage, between meetings, with the PPG. so we have slight indication of numbers, so we can arrange accordingly.
· Feed back on the news letter was excellent. Everyone in the meeting found it very informative and very useful.
- CQC Inspection focus on ‘effective’
· Following the previous meeting where we discussed ‘Safety’ as a CQC key inspection focus, we looked this time at ‘effective’.
· CQC- effective – ‘People and communities have the best possible outcomes because their needs are assessed. Their care, support and treatment reflects these needs and any protected equality characteristics. Services work in harmony, with people at the centre of their care. Leaders instil a culture of improvement, where understanding current outcomes and exploring best practice is part of everyday work.’
· The key ideas raised in the very lively discussion included:
- There needs to be trust and patients need confidentiality
- Patients need the ability to correct mistakes as there are from time to time mistakes in NHS recording and in transmission which can affect patient care. Patients need to know that corrections have been made at practice level.
- Effective means that different parts of the NHS are working in harmony so that the practice and the GPs are coordinating clearly with secondary and community NHS services
- PPG members were clear that needed timely responses when they had been seen by part of the service as delays can increase anxiety and uncertainty. This also applied to getting test results back. There was some concern at patients only being informed about test results if these were ‘negative’.
- One PPG member informed the meeting that the system used by some hospitals and NHS services, DrDoctor, allows patients to access all of their records and provides information about results etc.
- Blood test results are checked by practice doctors and get filed to the individual patient’s notes with comment on the outcome. Patients can find the results online via NHS app or system online. Also if patients call the surgery the team can also provide results/GP comments over the phone. Results can also be provided via email if a patient needs to share it with their hospital consultant.
- Some patients, because they need to talk about more than a single condition, need more than 10 minutes. Longer appointments can be given – just ask for this.
- Once source of anxiety for those in the discussion was receiving unexpected calls from the practice – or from the PCN (see below). It was felt that it was extremely important that the person making a call out of the blue needed to spend a few moments introducing themselves and explaining who they were and what the purpose of the call was in general terms before proceeding with any detailed personal discussion with the patient.
· Merril noted that ‘effective’ is such a vast topic, that we will continue to discuss it at the next PPG meeting too. Medicines reviews (and reordering) are also part of effectiveness and we will include this also on the next agenda.
· VC- we work hand in hand with the secondery card and make sure we correct the information that has been added tpo patients records incorrectly. Some time our doctors also communicate it with the hospital consultant when wrong information are received form the hospital. Also all our team meber receive training to deal with patient information with atmost confidentiality
· VC- Bloold test results are checked by our doctors and gets filed to the individual patients nots with comment of the outcome. Patients can find the results online via NHS app or system online. Also if patients call to the surgery our team can also provide results/GP comments over the phone. We are also happy to provide results via email if patient need to share it with their hospital consultant
· BM- doctor doctor and Patient Knows Best has some fantastic service. You can view your blood test results online and also look up and understand your treatment. It can shows you the ranges and also breakdown of what the results mean for you. They always upload clinic letters and other hospital information.
- South Fulham Primary Care Network (PCN) – Discussion led by Ross Lambdon, Associate Director, South Fulham PCN.
· A primary Care Network is a group of local GP practices that have become a mechanism for sharing staff and Resources. The South Fulham PCN is made of seven practices: Ashville Surgery, Cassidy Medical Centre, Fulham Cross Medical Centre, Fulham Medical Centre, Lilyville Surgery, Palace Surgery, Sands End Health Clinic. Our PCN has more than 63,000 patients.
· Each GP practice still maintains its independence as an individual practice but PCNs allow for greater collaboration to serve local patient need.
· The PCN has staff directly employed who help surgeries. The PCN team works alongside practices to support them in providing a variety of kinds of appointments, clinics and services for patients. This may mean that Lilyville patients, at times, are asked to go to a different surgery – but this will be at the direction of our own practice.
· Ross’s presentation led to a very useful and detailed discussion. We will circulate his slides with our next newsletter – and arrange for them to go on the Friends of Lilyville (PPG) website.
· The PCN is holding a Patient Information and Engagement meeting on July 10th at Palace surgery. Three of our Lilyville friends have volunteered to attend this meeting – we look forward to their report-back!
- Date of Next Meeting
The next meeting should be in September – to be confirmed.
Attachment
Meeting Minutes – 18.06.24
PDF, 60
April
Agenda
Welcome
FRIENDS OF LILYVILLE SURGERY
(PATIENT PARTICIPATION GROUP)
AGENDA – 18TH APRIL 2024
1. Introductions/Apologies
2. Minutes of previous meetings/matters arising (previously circulated)
a. Ground rules – to circulate. These should now go on the website!
b. Technology access issues – can be taken in access discussion
c. First newsletter – any feedback?
3. Discussion of CQC inspection focus on ‘safe’. Dr Emily Weston-Price.
4. GP Access Issues. (Note: DNAs are also an access issue – see newsletter!)
Introduction by Jim Grealy and general discussion.
Recommendations to take from this meeting.
5. Dates of next meetings – and agenda items for next meeting.
Minutes
FRIENDS OF LILYVILLE SURGERY
(PATIENT PARTICIPATION GROUP)
Friends of Lilyville (PPG) meeting minutes – 18/04/2024
Friends of Lilyville members: CG, MT, MH, JG, CR, JB, DR.CR, JW, CM, JM, EO, JG, MY, GN, RB, PB, MP, AG, AJG
Surgery Members: VC (Practice Manager), Dr EWP (GP Partner), MP (Operations Manager)
Apologies – RR, BM
Introduction and a warm welcome to the Friends of Lilyville team (PPG)
· Ground rules leaflet circulated (also attached) by the chairperson (MH) Brief explanation of aim and expectation from this meeting
· MH- PPG meetings are a forum for patients and staff at lilyville to work together to deliver results that will improve Lilyville as a GP practice in the interest of both patients and staff working.
· CQC- Safety- Dr EWP – Brief introduction about CQC, talked about how patients are informed about any risks and how to keep themselves safe. The questions to reflect are:
1. I feel safe and am supported to understand and manage any risks.
2. I know what to do and whom I can contact when I realize that things might be at risk of going wrong or my health condition may be worsening.
3. I have considerate support delivered by competent people.
· VC – Provided information regarding what training for the staff team happens during the recruitment process. Also as a training practice, all our GPs are trained to train and provide support. We take safeguarding for children and adults quite seriously and also provide training to meet confidentiality expectations accurately.
· Access – Dr EWP – Lilyville is now a bigger surgery and has changed a lot in terms of how we run and act certain things. Our team has gotten bigger as a result. We have continued the good things that we learned during the pandemic, for example, technology use, but we are also providing a lot of face-to-face appointments. 87% of our patients have face-to-face appointments, and 90% of our patients get an appointment within the first 2 weeks. This is quite an achievement for us as a surgery. All our Patchs requests are seen by our GP team daily.
· JG gave a report on same-day access. ICB is looking into starting a hub that provides same-day appointments. There will be a small team of people who will be triaging all the requests received by the hub and will signpost them to suitable services. These changes will affect about 2.7 million people.
· Surgery is aware of the problems patients face in ordering repeat medication. Dr TC is looking at the process and reviewing each stage to find out the most effective and practical way to make it more efficient. JG and MH will keep us updated with further information from ICB.
· DR EWP – we have looked into Improving access to our services. “ you said you wanted more appointments for working patients – we have now started early weekday ‘commute clinic’ GP appointments and we will be looking into extending access to our surgery on Saturday.
· Action Point 1- training sessions on Patches should be considered, both for those who can use Patches and for those who might have Patches completed by Care coordinators.
· Action Point 2- the practice should work closely with other neighboring practices in the PCN (Primary Care Network) to work out what functions well with access, what works less well, and how things might be improved so that any redesign of service meets the needs of local patients and GP practices. This work should involve both patients and GPs.
· The next Friends of Lilyville surgery meeting will be on the 18th of June, 2024.
Thank you very much
Lilyville @ Parsons Green and Friends of Lilyville
Attachment
Friends Of Lilyville (PPG)
PDF, 112.7 KB
January
Agenda
PPG Agenda –16.01.2024
Welcome
1. Introductions and apologies
2. Minutes of previous meeting and matters arising not elsewhere on the agenda
a. What do we call ourselves?
b. Agree on revised ground rules. Update from Lilyville on the suggestion box for practice.
3. PPG newsletter: discussion of format, content, and who will take responsibility; frequency etc.
4. Discussion item: A Perspective from the Reception Area and Staff: how can we be supportive while continuing to meet patient needs?
5. Future meetings:
a. dates (2 monthly meetings till mid-year then review)
b. topics: some suggestions – all others welcome
c. continuity of care; autism and Lilyville’s initiatives; medicines reviews
Minutes
Friends of Lilyville (PPG) Meeting minutes – 16.01.2024
Friends of Lilyville members: BG, JG, SH, CG, PW, MW, CW, MH
Surgery members: VC, Dr. EWP, MP
Apologies – RP
· Introduction and welcome
· PPG concluded with the name – Friends of Lilyville (PPG)
· Discussed about people without technology – MP will provide numbers in the next PPG
A. Patients without electronic gadgets
B. Patient who do not how to use it
C. Patient who cannot afford it
D. Patients with any other type of difficulty
· Agreed ground rules from the previous meeting – MH will provide this in the next meeting
· A suggestion box has been added to the surgery reception room, as per the PPG discussion last time.
A. Paper copy
B. QR code
C. Via website
· Discussed newsletter format for PPG – VC agreed to add it to the website so everyone has access to it. All the positive changes could be added to the newsletter that we have implemented recently.
· MP – talk about the recent abusive incident that has happened at the surgery. CG witnessed this when in the waiting room.
· PPG message to the reception team that PPG is horrified to learn about the abuse the team receives.
· Future dates for meetings will be decided and sent to everyone.
· BM talked about his problem in getting repeat medication via the system online. Worked fine with PATCHS.
· Dr EWP – CQC has been visiting surgeries recently. They measure all the surgeries again5 topics.
A. Safe
B. Affective
C. Carrying
D. Responsive
E. Well-led
Can we take one topic at every meeting – where Friends of Lilyville can quiz us about what are we doing about individual topics?
Thank you very much.
Lilyville @ Parsons Green
2023
March
Agenda
02.03.2023
Welcome – 2:00 pm
PATCHS update – 2:05 pm
Change of Phones – 2:15 pm
Change of Website – 2:30 pm
AOB- 2:45 pm
Next meeting date – 12.10.2023
End – 3:00 pm
Thank you for attending.
Minutes
Lilyville @ Parsons Green
5-7 Parsons Green, SW6 4UL
Patient Participation Group Meeting
2.03.2023
Participants from surgery Dr. RJ, VC, MP
Participants form patients group – MH, JG, CG
JG – Can I start by making some procedural suggestions? We have a very lively meeting at one of the sub-committees. I suggest that we make the agenda very formal. I would like to suggest an ad hoc meeting to discuss how can we do that going forward to create a very functioning PPG.
MH –I and JG are very active in other meetings with other committees and sub-committees, and as a result, we have learned a lot about NHS, how it works, and how it doesn’t work. We come with breathed of understanding that works to make practice even better and by that I mean even bigger PPG.
Dr. RJ – At times we had fairly big PPG, I remember we had 30 members in our PPG, but we have always had problems with getting numbers and we are not the only ones with this problem. It’s a busy time and it’s very hard to get numbers.
MH – successful PPG is patient lead and the main ideas that come from patients. It means patients that lead the group. In the beginning, when I become involved it used to be face-to-face meetings. Our agenda now needs to be changed to fit more things to be talked about, and a bigger PPG means more people and more ideas to talk about to improve.
Dr. RJ – agenda will normally be just a small list of topics, but anyone can talk about any ideas they have.
JG – I think it’s best that we meet face to face to discuss both ends working together.
VC – How can we attract more patients to our PPG? We have it added to our registrations if any new patients want to be included in our PPG. Also, it is on our website too.
JG- people normally join if they feel they are listened to, and the key to having more PPG members actually help with new ideas to improve on.
VC- MP will find dates that will work for everyone to arrange a small meet-up.
MP – Please give me time when you are around to be meeting and discussing ideas. I am happy to arrange a meeting in near future.
CG – hello, it’s nice to see everyone. I saw JG’s email and I agree with him. The numbers are dropping and now it’s down to 3 PPG members. Everything is now opening up and going back to normal, I think we should open up now too, and meet face to face which will attract more people to the lovely team of PPG.
VC – I am happy to move forward with your support to get the ball rolling. I would like to hear any feedback you have for PATCHS.
MH – my personal use of PATCHS has been wonderful. I think it has been a positive change from E-Consult to PATCHS. It is less time-consuming.
CG- my mum is 86 and she will never do the PATCHS. Some gatekeepers at the reception are more likely to oblige to help than a few others. It is very hard to get a GP appointment, I do understand that’s the way forward, and many other surgeries in Hammersmith and Fulham borough use it.
MH – technology can exclude people with some medical problems, and age and be based on different requirements. Digital should be an option and not a compulsion. Patients should feel adequate to use digital, it can affect their confidence level.
Dr. RJ – that’s exactly what we are aiming to do, I understand it is for a faster process for people’s medical needs. You can still make an appointment with our nurses over the phone. It is quite time-consuming for our reception team too, but the whole point is triage. We have a triage in a place where all the PATCHS comes on a list and a GP goes through all of them and also prioritises them all depending on the problem patient is reporting.
MH – well the triage can go wrong too, I am extremely well educated and literate but my PATCHS was not picked up and then I emailed and my email was not answered either. And I finally did another PATCHS and that was picked up. I was however very stuck without any message back to me or any response.
JG – we attended a very forward-looking PPG where one member was a carer for someone and was sharing the problem with using keyboards. No doubt PATCHS is good but it can’t be the whole game, it has its limitations. When patients don’t get through to the doctors then they use this online information and end up taking inappropriate medicine which is quite dangerous.
Dr. RJ – it is also not perfect from our point of view. We are also coming to terms with it ourselves. Our clinical system is also not perfect as it should be. We have a doctor doing a triage of a long list of PATCHS which means they can’t see patients during that time. We are looking into someone else doing triage, clearly who is clinically trained enough to identify from the common cold to something more serious, but we are underfunded.
CG – Triage at A&E is normally done by nurses. So I think our triage can be done via nurse.
VC – PATCHS is helping us save time, and it’s a faster process. We receive a lot of compliments where people say that they can’t believe how faster it is, also the turnover time is fast and that basically means quick help.
MP – We receive a lot of good feedback about PSATCHS. In the beginning, we used to receive 18 PATCHS per day now we are receiving 188 PATCHS on a busy Monday. We are glad that people are finding it a helpful and practical tool. We do work hard to provide the best experience for our patients. It is good that people are making the most of technology. Our phone lines are not clogged up and are faster as a result. I am very positive about this, we will find someone to do the triage for us, we also have a paramedic in our team who is undergoing further studies. MH – can you please tell us more about the topic around the repeat prescription and medication review?
MH – I don’t have a problem with medication orders, but when I required a medication review that took nearly 3 weeks, now my problem is solved but I was really frustrated as I only had enough medicine for a week left.
Dr. RJ – the review date is normally movable and normally very easy, it is very easy to reissue it. Also, you can only order 2 weeks in advance.
MH – Oh, so I wouldn’t even know that, probably I normally order a week before.
Dr. RJ – there are so many quirks like that and the system can also change from time to time too.
MP – I will definitely have a look at this and see what we can do differently to solve it.
VC – It was lovely to meet everyone and we will arrange the next meet-up soon.
Thank you to everyone for attending.
2022
August
Agenda
Details/Agenda:
- PATCHES
- Phone lines
- phone messages
- telephone waiting time
- staffing update
- AOB
Minutes
Lilyville @ Parsons Green
5-7 Parsons Green, SW6 4UL
Patient Participation Group Meeting
4.08.2022
Participants from surgery Dr. RJ, VC, MP, MC
Participants form patients group – MH, JG, FA, CG
· VC – Welcome to the PPG meeting. It is lovely to see everyone. We will talk about the points from our meeting agenda. Dr. RJ will start with the first point.
· Dr. RJ – PATCHS is a triage service, it has a list of questions that are filled by patients and then looked at by a small team of clinical people. The turnover time is very fast. It is replacing E-Consult. It has an online aliment about it. It is a big step for us toward using technology as we resisted it for a long time. It is very user-friendly. Gets very fast help for patients. A lot of people have fed back and are pleased with it. It’s helping the phone line traffic and phone lines are answered faster.
Once the patient fills up the PATCHS form and submits it, the E-hub team receives it and processes it. They have a qualified paramedic on their team as well as a pharmacist. They deal with any queries that they can handle, they send any admin-related queries to our admin team, and anything that requires GP attention gets distributed to our GP team on the day. So it is a pretty straightforward process. And seems to be working more efficiently than E-Consults. Admin-related PATCHS forms are sent to our admin team at the surgery.
MH- Hi, can I please say something here, it is definitely a step forward in the right direction, as I have to get in contact with the surgery and so I filled up a PATCHS form and it wasn’t too bad. It was a small form compared to E-Consult and people will be happy about it. But then I received a message that my case was closed without any further information. So I was left very anxious. I have some suggestions that would have helped the awareness and spreading the information about the PATCHS. We received no communication from the surgery about E-Consult changing or the new platform, also I didn’t know that I have to be registered with PATCHS to request help.
VC- the link for PATCHS with information was definitely sent out, but not sure why it was not received by some patients. I think MH received the message about her task being completed as the hub has then handed over her PATCHS to the GP so they closed the case, we will see how we communicate with the patients, and not close the case without any action taken first. We will feed this back to the e-Hub team.
MH- It’s the wording of the message that made me worried I didn’t hear back from practice at that point. I understand that teething problems can happen at the initial stage.
FA- I did receive an email from practice telling me about PATCHS. I have all the good things to say about PATCHS too but the message is received which sounds very digital. We need human touch because at the moment it feels like we are just dealing with artificial intelligence. Also, the hub needs to think about the language in which the messages are sent out. It feels very impersonal to patients. I am also looking to make an appointment with Dr. RJ for a year now, but getting to speak with different doctors which are not helping. One of the GP who actually put me nearly in tears. For me the GP has to know me, don’t get me wrong I really like this surgery as a lot of my problems which should have been picked up a lot earlier were solved here, but that continuity is important for me.
RJ- we will be using the direct service where patients can book an appointment themselves. We will first introduce it with the appointments for nurses and HCA, also for types of blood and smears and then for other services. Gradually see how it works for others too as some appointments can be booked wrongly, for example – a stitches removal with GP or a more clinical appointment with a nurse. Which will basically waste the appointments.
JG- PATCHS is certainly much better. I am not sitting there looking at the screen for questions after questions. However, I must say that it is very technology-based and feels like the link is broken between patient and doctor. The language used is very computerized and it feels like we are only dealing with computers and not humans.
VC – we will flag this with PATCHS and the hub as their process is important for our patients.
MH- don’t get me wrong PATCHS is far better than E-consult but GP choice is important too. The continuity of care has shown significant improvement in outcomes for patients, this is a good reason why patients should have choices of who they see. It helps with continuity of care and follow-up.
VC- I understand that. You can specify which GP you would like to see in PATCHS and unless your problem is urgent we will be mindful of the choice you have made. Just to clarify that all our GP works very hard, we are so lucky to have a good team. We all worked so closely and now we have MP who is added support to our team. She is here to support me and everyone on our team including our patients.
Dr. RJ- we do have a high turnover in our reception team but it is now getting better. It is so hard for the front-facing reception team and I understand it is hard work. They feel that the expectation from patients has changed during pandemics. Also so hard to find the new staff including the new partner. The shortage is nationwide.
JG- trust me the patients know how hard it is for GPs during pandemics. We hear about this type of thing all the time when we go for ICS meetings and health meetings for the borough. So we know that the crisis is real.
MH- how is Dr. RL by the way? I know he has not been well. We show him once when we went for walk. Can a good luck message be sent out to him from the patient’s group?
Dr. RJ- I am afraid I am not able to say more than that he is not well and has not back working for a long time now. Yes, we can arrange a message for him for sure actually that will be very nice.
MP- I am very happy to say that Dr. ES completed her doctoral training and will be joining our team in September. Dr. TC is back working with us and is doing 4 sessions per week with surgery. Dr. RT has returned from her maternity leave and is back to working with us for 4 sessions too. We are a training surgery and this year we have 4 new GP training to work with us. As a result, we have a lot more appointments and also face-to-face appointments than before.
MP- incoming telephone lines are now recorded. The main incoming lines and extensions are recorded, but the phone lines which are used for GP are not recorded due to patient confidentiality. The phone lines are now monitored so the waiting time for surgery to answer the phone is faster than before. Also, we have more people answering the phone compared to before.
JG- I had a chat with MP a day before and it was very positive. We go to ICS forum meetings we hear a lot of stuff about how PPG can help and support the practice in improvement. Some PPG is small and some PPG has more than 100 people working together. We should also try to pick up a good mix of people.
Dr. RJ- we did at 30 or 40 at the time of the pandemic when we were doing meetings online.
MH – I am normally a busy person and normally don’t have much time to commit to meetings but we should meet more often as big gaps don’t help and people lose their involvement also we need to find constructive ways for patients to volunteer.
FA- I was also trying to get invited to PPG for a year but no one at the reception knew what PPG is. I also write messages to give to management.
VC – oh we are so sorry about that as we normally collect the date from the registration form and code them differently on our system so when we run the search all the patients interested in PPG come up in the search. We will speak with our reception team at the team meeting. We will have our next meeting on 9.02.2023 but we will have a south PCN meeting coming up before that.
Thank you everyone for your time.
2021
July
Agenda
Attendance.
Patients
CG
JG
MH
PR
Staff
Dr Robert Jenkins (Partner)
Mrs Varsha Chohan (Practice Manager)
Mrs Katie Wise (Reception Manager)
Apologies
RR
SW
Agenda.
1. Patient Access.
Minutes
Minutes:
1. Patient Access.
VC introduction patient access to phonelines, e/Consults, appointment system etc…
Q&A session as we are interested to hear your experiences.
PR & MH – Concern was expressed with regard to the new technology being used such as e/Consult, online services, Zoom, video calls etc.. Although there are advantages to having new technology this may not be accessible to all. Although there is a huge pressure on the NHS, how do we remain in contact with our patients who may not have access to devices to use the new technology? Many patients do not have access due to all sorts of reasons such as, financial, elderly, learning difficulties etc.. Therefore, this is not inclusive.
MH – There is a strong feeling of people in the borough that GP’s do not want to see or have contact with their patients. This is widely stated on social media sites.
e/Consults – are currently off line. No information was given to patients that this service was not available.
Telephone appointments – virtually impossible to get a telephone appointment, due to shortage of appointments.
Sure that there is an explanation for this. Again, huge pressures on the NHS at the moment. However, communication to patients is lacking. We need to look at how we can better communicate with patients.
JG – Biggest problem is access. Covid has made this very difficult. All dashboards are like a huge Keep Out Sign! If patients cannot get an appointment with their GP they will go to Urgent Care Centres or A&E.
CG – Really needed to speak with a GP F2F, this was not possible, as had to speak with GP on telephone first.
Elderly parent does not like bothering the GP, called the surgery and was cut off after a long wait as it was lunchtime. The phone lines should be open over the lunch period too.
Dr RJ – Addressing these concerns.
We never stopped seeing, triaging patients.
We were speaking to around 160 patients a day. 20 of whom were seen F2F, this was the only way in which we could manage this. There is one GP a day seeing patients F2F and the rest via the telephone. Things are opening up more, however, the 19th July 2021 we will not be going back to normal. All patients and staff will have to continue to wear face covering and follow government guidelines.
As a team we had 9 people who were diagnosed with Covid.19. 1 GP retired. 2 GP’s are still away on long term sick leave. We are trying to recruit at the moment.
Locums are hard to secure.
Patients have various problems which have been building up and now need to be addressed.
Reception – Stress levels are high due to public abuse.
Walk-In-Centre has been closed for over a year.
Demand is at it’s highest!
e/Consult – Very unsafe. Incredibly flawed. We are having a break from e/Consult. A message is on our website to explain this – Due to exceptional circumstances in the practice, we have had to switch off e-consult. Self-help information will be available via our Who Do I See, and you will be able to book online appointments.
Telephone lines – are constantly jammed, as the demand is so high. We hope that this improves soon.
CG – stated that we were not closed for the Covid 19 vaccination hub. Dr RJ stated that this was a huge public service one which we whole heartedly supported. However, this did have a knock on effect with other practices patients contacting the Lilyville at Parsons Green via the telephone.
MH – Communication with our patients is depressing and worrying, there has to be ways to communicate with patients.
e/Consult is a waste of GP and patients time.
Regular text messages should go out to patients.
Up to date messages should be on our website.
We should contact our telephone and IT provider to relay up to date information to patients. Especially to inform patients that the telephone lines will not be answered between 1pm and 2.30pm.
A noticeboard at the front gate, so that when the practice is closed patients are aware of the opening times/telephone times. So that patients do not feel that we do not care about them.
VC – Will communicate with the telephone and IT provider to disseminate information to patients.
CG – Said that the surgery telephone lines should be open between the hours of 1pm and 2.30pm. Dr RJ said that this was not as easy as it sounds and would not ease the pressure of demand.
JG – These issues are impossible to solve on our own, maybe if we share with the practices within our PCN and pool together ideas we may be able to resolve some of the issues.
Mr JG would not like to share health concerns with non clinical staff.
Dr RJ – With regard to Networks – every practice runs in different ways. Due to high patient demand we
are looking at a company called Livi to assist with telephone consultations with a Dr. We pay a fee for them to consult with our patient for two morning and two afternoon sessions a week from September 2021. The Flu Season is on it’s way and we will need extra support.
MH – informed the group that Hounslow introduced this with Bush Dr. This provided privileged access to the privileged, but the not the under privileged.
Dr RJ – This may create a greater access to the under privileged groups to access the Lilyville at Parsons Green.
VC – Our patient list size has increased. More staff are being recruited.
PR – The NHS received the George Cross for it’s services to the general public during the pandemic. The NHS plan was to digitalise as soon as possible, however, this would have been phased in gradually. 5 years worth of change happened in a matter of months, we should be grateful.
MH – No one is being critical of the NHS, I am happy with the care I receive at the Lilyville at Parsons Green. The funding required was not there before the pandemic.
Dr RJ – Our premises were used as a covid vaccination hub for PCN. We received thousands of calls, enquires from patients from practices within the PNC. Under resourced across the board.
In summary –
Manage our website with up to date information.
Update message on telephone.
To enquire with CLCH regarding a notice board outside of the gates at Parsons Green Centre for Lilyville at Parsons Green – providing relevant information such as opening times, telephone line times etc..
Communicate with the PPG.
Everyone happy with the Lilyville at Parsons Green and thanked the GP’s and staff.
Suggestion to use social media such as Next Door together with the Council ICP health and social care weekly borough news.
Action notes:
ACTION PLAN
- Manage our website with up to date information.
- SMS Message to be sent out to patients and add information on our website that we are open.
- To enquire with CLCH regarding a notice board outside of the gates at Parsons Green Centre for Lilyville providing relevant information such as opening times, telephone line times etc..
- Communicate with the PPG – Suggestion to use social media such as Next Door together with the Council ICP health and social care weekly borough news.
COMPLETED ACTION AND DATE
- Website has been reviewed and updated. This will be ongoing.
- SMS Message sent to all pt on our list on the 20/7/2021
- Message on website has been added on the 20/7/2021
Outstanding Plan
- To enquire with CLCH regarding a notice board outside
- Communicate with the PPG – Suggestion to use social media such as Next Door